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[00:50:04]<OriansJ>ACTION FACEPALMS HARD
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[00:56:45]<OriansJ>Anyone else really interested in Instruction Set Architecture Engineering? #bootstrappable has some interesting research opportunities for you
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[01:02:11]<A87221>Is there a "build-essential" equivalent that will give me a sane gcc and g++ env?
[01:02:24]<A87221>(build-essential in debian*)
[01:02:45]<OriansJ>A87221: gcc and binutils; should do it (gdb if you like)
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[01:05:27]<A87221>Hello OriansJ, when I try to test gcc, I see: "ld: cannot find crtl.o: No such file or directory". Also crti.o.
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[01:05:59]<OriansJ>A87221: you need binutils for that
[01:07:11]<A87221>I do have it installed.
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[01:12:03]<qwertasd>A87221: install gcc-toolchain
[01:12:46]<A87221>qwertasd -- testing...
[01:14:55]<A87221>qwertasd, *thanks*
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[01:23:45]<A87221>Is the guix warning "collision encountered" a serious problem or safe to ignore?
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[01:25:18]<OriansJ>A87221: Generally safe to ignore
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[02:12:17]<atw>I can use emacs' new-ish --fg-daemon to create a user service around emacs, meaning that an emacs user service (https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/guix-devel/2018-02/msg00047.html) actually works!
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[02:39:46]<A87221>Anyone have knowledge related to gtk+ in guixsd?
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[02:40:52]<A87221>I installed gtk+. Trying to build geany, which expects gtk+2.0.
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[02:42:31]<pkill9>A87221: try gtk+@2
[02:42:52]<pkill9>also when you say you instaled it, do you mean you instlaled it to your user profile?
[02:45:46]<A87221>pkill9, shall try that. Yes, installed as user, not as root.
[02:46:33]<pkill9>it's better to use `guix environment --ad-hoc <package> <package> ...`
[02:46:49]<pkill9>for compiling software
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[02:47:34]<pkill9>that will put you in an environment with those packages 'installed' in that environment
[02:47:37]<A87221>you mean instead of guix package -i foo ?
[02:47:41]<pkill9>yeah
[02:48:19]<A87221>is the env transient? or like python venv?
[02:48:31]<pkill9>it's transient
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[02:49:33]<A87221>pkill9, *thank you*. "gtk+@2" is the solution! Can you explain it to me?
[02:50:25]<pkill9>the '@2' tells guix to look for version 2 of gtk+
[02:50:56]<A87221>I had issued "gtk+" -- what would that have installed?
[02:50:59]<pkill9>(and the latest minor version, e.g. 2.4 would be chosen over 2.3)
[02:51:11]<pkill9>it installed the latest gtk+, which is gtk+3
[02:52:10]<A87221>Today I Learned. Now I can prepare a geany package for guixsd. (o:
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[09:31:46]<roptat>hi guix!
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[09:58:30]<g_bor[m]>Hello guix!
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[10:11:18]<efraim>looks like debootstrap might need to propagate coreutils, certainly easier than finding each occurance and patching it
[10:15:13]<roptat>so I'm running guix pull on my arm board and it's taking a lot of time :/
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[10:39:58]<g_bor[m]>As far as I've seen wip-java8 is not merged to staging yet. What is the current status, can I merge it now?
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[11:06:38]<qwertasd>where can I find all the drivers I can add to cups-configuration?
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[11:49:14]<OriansJ>roptat: my RaspberryPI has been erroring out for the last 2 days when I do guix pull. (It taking about 11 hours to get to the error out however makes it hard to troubleshoot)
[11:53:14]<A87221>Compiling problem: "ld: cannot find -lbz2". I have installed lbzip2... Do I need something else?
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[11:57:25]<efraim>libzip2-dev?
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[12:11:01]<A87221>efraim -- shall test.
[12:11:59]<A87221>No such package.
[12:13:51]<roptat>OriansJ: the power cable is not very reliable, so it keeps powering off while doing guix pull actually
[12:14:05]<roptat>that's why I didn't see any progress on the ssh session ^^'
[12:15:46]<A87221>Hi OriansJ, how can I solve this compile dependency in guix? "ld: cannot find -lbz2". I have installed lbzip2.
[12:21:04]<OriansJ>A87221: libarchive perhaps
[12:22:00]<A87221>Shall test. Working on compiling geany. The lib deps in debian output differ from those in guixsd...
[12:27:46]<A87221>OriansJ, it didn't satisfy the dep.
[12:30:12]<A87221>How does one install the src files for a package using guix?